The only good girls are Taipei girls
‘The only good girls are Taipei girls……..’
told to me by someone when i first came here
If you live in Taipei, consider yourself fortunate. There are TONS of quality ladies there- OUTSTANDING ladies that you will feel fortunate to have known, no matter what happens between the two of you.There are many who are ready to have a boyfriend and will treat you right.And the odds are on your side mathematically. Look at the demographics: urban and metro population of Taipei is 5,000,000 people!!!!! All confined into a city the size of Baltimore!Most dependent on public transportation. You’re bound to run into somebody that suits you.
However, if you are out of Taipei or other MAJOR city, you’re mostly out of luck.I have listened to more than one guy outside Taipei complaining about not getting any action at all. If you live outside Taipei(or Tai Chong etc), I suggest making a two day trip to there a regular weekly thing, just to meet people.
That said, even in Taipei there are a few types of women that I find unique to Taiwan that one should watch out for. They are not the majority, but they exist in enough numbers to make your dating life a serious pain. Here they are:
1. Miss English- always talking in English( except to her girl buddies),and always preparing for some English proficiency test, Miss English is goal oriented. People around her don’t matter, except those who fit into her academic plans. You are basically language practice. Any attention she shows you is to keep you on the hook. Also, her talk about former foriegn boyfriends she claims to have had will depress you.
Sex with her would probably involve you teaching her all the synonyms for the word ‘orgasm’, as well as correcting her pronunciation when she moans.
Avoid her.
2. Miss Group Think– you make a date with MGT, only for her to call you up (or worse show up) and say ‘can i bring a friend?’ Miss Group Think does not trust her own judgment and needs you to be screened by her friends. Of course, you will not pass the test. Her friends will pick out anything that’s different about you and judge it as a fault (the Chinese way of looking at things is always right). But it’s worse than that.
Many times, MGT has thought it over and decided she’s not really ready to go out with you, but can’t get out of the date. So, she is letting you know that you’re just friends by bringing her friend. You CANNOT win this situation. If you get angry, that is ‘proof’ that you were unstable and not worth her time.
Nothing will come of any effort with MGT. My advice: just leave her there with her friend.
3. Miss Xenophobia– closely related to Miss Group Think. Does the same things as MGT but for a different reason: she’s just not ready to spoil her squeaky clean dating record by actually going out with a foriegner. Miss Xenophobia is a product of decades of nationalist conditioning and quite frankly, a racist whether she knows it or not. Basically unreachable.
4. Miss ‘Don’t Know What My Vagina Is For’– runs in packs. thinks looking pretty is for her girlfriends, not the opposite sex. Is a clueless, sexual dud in a killer body. loves Hello Kitty. rejoices in making all men her friends.Is probably getting sex, but nobody can figure out from where. May have no need whatsoever for it, since her perceivable libido is zero.
5. Miss Drives Fast So You Can’t Look At Her- also wears one of the new full face sunvisors. These girls are hiding. They dress sexy to find Mr. Right, whoever he is (they don’t know either), and since you’re not him, you are just a nuisance who won’t stop looking at her. These girls drive excessively fast and one day will know what it’s like to be nipple-less, having scraped them off sliding 10 meters on the pavement at 80kph!
Another example of the excessive stupidity that shows itself in many- not the majority-but TOO MANY taiwanese women.You don’t have to avoid this woman. She’s avoiding you.
6. Miss Church- EITHER is trying hard to get away from whatever bad girl she used to be. or, is frigid and afraid of men and is hiding behind the church, but knows she needs a man, so she ‘marries’ Jesus, knowing He won’t get her into trouble. Asking this girl out for coffee, you might as well be asking her for a romp in the sack. ‘Oh i couldn’t go out with you unless you were my boyfriend.’ (catch 22)?
Of course, she can’t keep up this act forever and will look for a safe avenue to express her pent up sexuality. But the moment you return her advances, she will turn you away and say you misunderstood,i.e ‘ we’re all just friends.’ As with a lot of Taiwan girls, she just wanted the ‘atmosphere of a foriegner’ for a few moments, but just can’t go for real.
7. Miss 7-11- has lots of guys-tough strong, manly truck drivers- telling her she’s pretty everyday. What does she need you for? Nothing really, but atmosphere. She only enjoys the atmosphere of ‘that foriegn guy who comes in’. Maybe she feels she’s accomplished something because she’s ‘broken out of’ her xenophbia and actually talked to a foriegner. Her friends can say ‘wow’.
But if you think Miss 7-11 is going out with you, you’d better get your head out of the clouds. 7-11 girl only likes rough, tough men, and you, no matter how tough you are, are too nice for a down home taiwanese girl. Which brings us to….
8. Country Girls (in case you happen outside of Taipei)- no, they’re not sexually repressed bumpkins just waiting to release it on a foriegn guy. They’re already getting PLENTY of sex, from TAI KE GE GE(those tough, gangster jerks). To her, you with all your foriegner -nice -guy- treat- women-right stuff, just aren’t manly. You have to understand: all country girl has ever seen are the tough types.That’s her image of a man. She knows if she wants anything from them, she has to offer up more than flirting. These guys don’t give a you know what about women, and they get it ALL. CGs treat you nice because you give them something they can’t get from their boyfriends- true niceness. But you are just for that and NOTHING MORE. All sexual attention and attraction is reserved for her good for nothing truck driver boyfriend, who by the way, doesn’t know how to smile, only smirk.
9. Miss ‘Women Looking For Men.Com’ or whatever site she posts on-you would think this girl would fall into one of two types: nice girl looking for a quality guy and is READY to date or 2., sex craved nympho who likes foriegners, but you would be wrong(about 1.).
When you meet 1., she’ll make you jump thru the same hoops as Miss Group Think. She’s NOT READY to date, no matter what she posts. 2. is no fun and quite frankly, psychotic. Trust me- nymphos are nothing to brag about on your sexual resume.
10. Miss Sky High Standard- nothing is good enough for this woman. The days when a foriegn guy was considered a catch are over. You’ll surely run into a greencard digger in Taiwan. Taiwan has been quite successful at boosting the self esteem of women here thru the roof. Even your nice, cozy house that you can buy in the States, Canada, or Australia isn’t good enough for her. You’re not president of Taiwan Bank. You’re not good enough. Close relative to Miss Xenophobia.
So there you are. The stuff to avoid. Good luck……….
my wife is from Kaohsiung. case closed!
Taipei girls seem to be the most likely to date dumb foreigners. Let those girls do whatever they want, I say.
There are more English speaking Taiwanese and more foreigners in Taipei too so there will be more cross cultural dating there. As far as Taipei girls being the most likely to date dumb foreigners, I can see no evidence of that. There are plenty of girls, even here in lovely Tainan, that are more than willing to date dumb foreigners.
Ran, you forgot a group, and it is called the Groupie. This would go against what you say but these girls need a foreigner and will stop at nothing to get one, and have likely had several in their grasp before (starting to gross you out yet?). They frequent foreigner restaurants, pubs, and discos. You know who I am talking about.
u missed another group: druggies and junkies. d&js will give u what u want as long as u can get them E&K… although the experience may not be so pleasurable cuz they r unconscious 70% of the time.
Nothin’ like some good ol’ fashioned Yellow Fever to start your day.
As for me, my experiences with chicks in Taiwan has been… just… no.
A lot of it has to do with my ABC status. I speak fluent Mandarin and look like them, so the laowai appeal is gone, but somehow the “deep wallet” perception remains, despite evidence to the contrary.
In other words, I am to similar to have any lasting appeal, but different enough to have my money sucked dry. Oh, Tai-Mei…
my main point was that in most of the major cities you find more NORMAL girls- girls who are less likely to believe folk superstitions but rather, use REASON as a basis for living. there are in my opinion, TWO taiwans: one is stuck in the past and the other is getting educated, going to bookstores, living a “LOHAS” lifestyle, reading top ten international bestsellers,etc.
you will find LOTS of these kinds of ladies in TAIPEI, which is the only major city i really have experience with. i couldn’t vouch for tai chong, or tainan because i don’t have any experience there.
the girls in other parts of taiwan really don’t seem to have their heads together sexually. a friend of mine made it to 3rd base with a girl, only for her to accuse him of date rape that night because she felt guilty.
still other girls will let you get them into a situation where any NORMAL couple would make out ie, walking to a secluded spot alone at night, start holding close, but the kiss is a NO GO!! she lets you walk the whole 99 yards, but can’t let you go that 1 more step!!!
my next installment will tell you EXACTLY what to do in this case. and it works. tune in.
ran the man
The funniest one is number 4. Hahah. So funny and so true!
Ran the Man, i you state: “TAIPEI, which is the only major city i really have experience with. i couldn’t vouch for tai chong, or tainan because i don’t have any experience there” but then go on to say: “the girls in other parts of taiwan really don’t seem to have their heads together sexually.”
how would you know? in fact, you have to speak Chinese and probably not be an English teacher for women to take you seriously in Taiwan. if you’re like most foreigners here, you’re a short-time only fling, and that’s exactly the kind of girls you will attract. you can’t expect to have a serious relationship speaking baby English with a girl who knows that pretty soon you’re history. those girls won’t open up to you.
#4 is not funny and is the worst. ive been in the situation where i go 99 steps and cannot make the 1. what could there possibly be to do in that situation? i would very much like to know Ran. being with this girl would change my life, in fact i very much have one-itis right now. but that is a me i am afaid i will never know.
The way he wrote it is just hilarious.
“Is a clueless, sexual dud in a killer body. loves Hello Kitty.”
That is great because it is so true. Ran also says to avoid these types, so there you go. I am interested to see Ran’s next post. We could all learn something possibly… Come on Ran, change some lives!
@ B.BarNavi
You are really screwed eh? Be strong man. And be like most western guys out here and make all your dates split the bill. At least you won’t go broke.
to answer MJ,
my mandarin is almost like my english. i have been here 10 years, and spoken mandarin for 20, just so you’ll know. but i can understand how you might assume the opposite.
as i said before, there are many quality ladies in taiwan. i see no reason to waste time on the ones who don’t have their heads together. taipei is a SURE thing as far as meeting someone. that’s the only i can say with any certainty.
the next article will deal with the stalls women put up. you’re going to be dissapointed greatly with the one you love so much, because almost ALL women here put up the same “tests”. what i’m going to tell you will probably shock you, in that you will see opportunities where you didn’t see any before.observation and execution are key.
it’s a game, one that these girls play to their own loss when they won’t let YOU, a quality guy pass the test. you keep that attitude in mind,Hugh. believe it in your heart- “I’m a quality person, you play this game to your loss, not mine”.
Ran Da Ge, i hear you. i am 25 and in my short time on this Earth have learned what i consider to be a ‘good’ way of life. i am living the best that i possibly know how every day. Before i walk into the girls house and room i thank her for letting me in. I have brought her many presents at her work. I have gao bai’ed, expressed my emotions to her and said i want her to be my girlfriend. After not responding i said so what do you think? (we speak only mandarin) and she said wo jue de qi guai.
Now it is more than a week and i havent called her. i am not at all the guy to go out and try and sleep with alot of girls. i havent felt this way about a girl in years. Maybe my strategy of not calling her is having a reverse effect, she hasnt called me. i just have no idea what she is thinking. then again i have been here 2 months am only here for another 4, this might be one of the reasons she hesitates. still, the hugh that would come from being with this girl is a hugh that i can only imagine.
Are you willing to take her back to your home country and support her, or are you just looking for a part time 4 month romance to tide you over while you are here?
You might need to go for a groupie girl. Sounds like you need a part time girlfriend, which your favorite girl is being sensible in not pursuing.
hugh,
first a caveat:
25 years old is young for a guy to feel like one girl is “the one”. i’ve met a LOT of “the ones”. how can that be?
they were the one for that time in my life. they treated me good. i cherish what they gave me, each one of them.
i would worry about “the one” at about 30.
but…
if you really love her, don’t be so apologetic. she lets you in her house. you’ve MORE than got your foot in the door. but you hesitate, so she hesitates.
she’s waiting for you to GIVE HER A LIFE. step up. be the man. grab her hand and the rest will follow.
As strange as it sounds even to me i think i could marry her Admin, but you are right. she is sensible in not pursuing me. Maybe i should give up the ‘im going to give up soon so you better call me’ act and see her as often as i can before i leave.
B.BarNavi,
ABC is cool. look at Garrett Wang (star trek voyager). from what i can see he gets plenty of action around san francisco.
attitude. attitude.
when i was growing up, i thought ABC dudes were the coolest. i wanted to be just like them. my heros were alex kwok, james lew,etc.all the dudes in IKF magazine (not trying to stereo type, just saying, I always thought ABC dudes were cool).
take that cool and use it on chicks here in taiwan. you’ve got it, so use it.
willy santos,
i was also going to mention “foriegner bar flies”, but you guys have gotta have something for those nights when other options fail.
i am now convinced that not calling her for a week to make her want to push things forward was a mistake. Ran, my man, im going to do exactly what you said and give her a life. i shall return here someday and report…whether my ancestors bless me or nay.
As long as these women are more like Winnie Cooper as opposed to Paris Hilton, I’d say men go get yourself a good girl and not a filthy, loose slob.
good girls are a must. i DO NOT recommend bar flies. but there is a problem in taiwan with good girls not knowing what “good” means.many think good is playing by the rules. and some of those “rules” include the idea that being with a foriegner is wrong.
in fact, good girls can hurt you very badly. they don’t care about previous signals they’ve given off, only that they’ve broken off before they’ve done anything their peers consider bad. as long as they haven’t crossed that line (the one set by their peers) they assume they’ve done no wrong. in actuality they’ve crossed a more important line, that of human decency and respect for others as one would for oneself.
but say that to one of them and they’ll laugh at you. is that a good person?
in short, GOOD GIRL DOESN’T EQUAL GOOD PERSON.
Sorry Ran, I think you’re on the wrong track.
Any girls worth her salt will screen guys, and most of the stuff you mentioned is just screening, whether conscious or not.
The fact is, the “dumb foreign” guys who are getting all the pussy are the dudes who see through these silly games. That’s why Taiwanese girls dig these dudes: they refuse to jump through hoops and carry their girlfriend’s handbag. It’s the seem reason they are into the gangster/taike types.
Most Taiwanese girls are very traditional. Don’t pander to them and don’t pay any attention to their BS and they’ll be all over you.
my thoughts exactly.
We can just shorten this to don’t date idiots.
and oh yeah tru dat for number 9 tru dat indeed………….
just don’t date the idiots, in so many words. right on. problem is, despite my lengthy article warnings, YOU’LL NEVER KNOW IF SHE’S AN IDIOT TIL SHE SPRINGS THIS CRAP ON YOU!!
many times you’ll things these women won’t do this and BAM they will. many disappointments.
with experience you can sort of get a feel for what’s going to happen, but not always.
Speak for yourself, I am rough enough to handle them…
Well friends, it has been three weeks and i have not seen the girl of my dreams. She told me she would call one night and didnt, which wasnt hardly the first time so i thought she was giving me the indirect clue that she wanted her space. I have given her space, she texted me once to watch out for the taiphoon but i wrote back and said xie xie qing ni ye zhu yi an quan! Tomorrow i start the Three Days of Presents and i will give her a different present each night. It has been three weeks, but i have less than three months left here and i am going to see her as often as she will let me.
so you rejected my post? and i was going to ask you if you wanted to go out and show me around or something in tainan. i hate to be superstitious but i wonder if your rejecting my post has anything to do with life slapping me repeatedly in the face ever since i came to taiwan.
please delete my last posts. and please forgive me. as my destiny seems to ignore me more and more i grow impatient for something to happen, and it could be that instead of rejecting my post you simply havent checked it. i need to go into silent recluse now. again, i am sorry friend.
Hey Hugh, I don’t have an entirely long experience with Taiwanese girls but I know enough to know from Chinese girls that that silence you’ve been experiencing from her means she’s out of the game. Rather than face the issue with you she’s avoiding any kind of confrontation or interaction that would involve a loss of face with either party. I’ve been through a similar situation (although nowhere near a “she’s the one” level). After the first week you pretty much know she’s out, even the first few days of silence. If anything, next time you’ll be even more adept to read the very subtle signs of romance in Taiwanese culture. But hey, I could be wrong. I’ve got more experience in the mainland, but from what I read from this post, Beijing girls are just like Taipei girls when it comes to romance.
Hi Ran,
I am a Taiwanese girl who has lived abroad for many years. I find your article entertaining and witty. Bit of an eye opener for ladies and in some ways educational. I look forward to reading your future articles.
hugh,
open up and get a grip! i’m a busy guy. i can’t answer everyone’s posts right away.
don’t go into silent recluse! get out and get to know people. if you fall down, get up and try again. keep trying! social skills are difficult to learn. i find myself way behind on what passes for sophisticated nowdays, but i’m willing to learn if it’s good for me.
A quality lady has every right to choose the man she wants to go out with.
Why should she date a dumb foreign guy who just wants to be a player?
It is a waste of time for her too.
And what’s wrong with practicing English with you?
Don’t you have to speak English back in your own country?
And isn’t speaking English the only thing a dumb foreign guy can accomplish
in Taiwan? No offense to the highly educated and professional foreign men in Taiwan.
well i have failed. i gave her all kinds of presents and was there for her when she needed me, i took care of her friends dog for her because her friend went out of town and gave it to her but she didnt want to deal with it. she said she would call me when she has time (which she has alot of) more than 2 weeks ago but nothing. i havent seen her in a month. i have one month left in taiwan. i hope i can see her at least one more time before i die. ive never felt anything like this before. i have no reason to live.
and sandra, you are stupid.
To be honest, I was not comfortable when I was reading this article. Probably what you said is pretty much the truth.
i’m really sorry not get back to all of you readers sooner. just got back on the site.
love taiwan girls. love em. it’s just that a lot of , for lack of a better word (i’m cooking dumplings right now and have to watch the water) stupidity has crept up as a result of many cultural issues in taiwan. these issues cause many people to believe they are THINKING when they are really not. they think they are being their “own girl” but they’re not. i will explain deeper after these dumplings finish.
welcome to all of you new posters.
sandra,
of course a girl has every right to choose who she’s with. i’m just saying that some of the criteria that taiwan women are using is NOT to their own advantage.
i’m trying to be objective not cultural. of course from a cultural perspective all of this might be normal, but from an objective LOGICAL and PYSCHOLOGICAL viewpoint, a lot of taiwanese women’s thought process is border line personality disorder. there are reasons for this. gotta go back to my dumplings and i’ll tell you
the main problems in taiwanese thought process are the influence of DAOISM and CONFUCIANSIM. i call confucious “confuse us”. i know that sounds like a brash westerner who just doesn’t understand, but there are vast problems with confucian thought. good points but many bad.
it is very difficult i believe (and i empathize with them) for people who have grown up in a chinese culture to really have a critcal thought process. so many things are “just that way”. i feel chinese culture itself could probably be catorgorized as a religion.
watch ads on TV and you will hear the word “Creative” being thrown around. for westerners, creativity in a product or service is a given. so we generally won’t say how “creative ” something is. but for Taiwanese, creativity is a BIG DEAL! the roblem there is confucianism and it’s bind on being unique. of course, America’s emphasis on “uniqueness” creates a lot of “unique” (in the bad way) people.
Daoism is a fearful relgion. when we die, we all basically go to hell, no matter what we have done. there are many many gods, and they look scary too. if our families don’t burn money and make noise for us when we die, we will be cheated in hell.
basically, chinese religion is very dark. westerners are basically agnostic,or believe God to be a person who will reward good and evil. the more agnostic people depend on their REASON to live, more faith based people take comfort in a personal God. monotheism in both cases are basically eliminated confusion in the western mind. that is why our culture has been able to move forward.
take western culure and superimpose it on the chinese and there will be problems: does being my own woman mean being like “Sex and the City” or does it mean something else? can i think freely without being slutty? does being a good girl mean being fearful? is being “chinese” the only way to be “good”?
so these girls live in fear.
Daosim
my editing is getting sloppy
basically,
if you can cut thru all the cultural crap and reach one of these women with the genuine article ( true manly love) you’ve done a good deed
so be a man and go out there and find a girl. “save” her from all this mumbo jumbo, hocus pocus, and bubblegum dating philosophy on TV. come across with the real deal. BE the real deal. you are a quality guy. think it. believe it.
Hugh, you’re being an AFC. Giving a girl presents is not going to make her like you. You’ve lost her by putting her on a pedistal. There will be another girl, and when she comes along be confident challenging and definitely not so needy.
I have a question about dating in Taiwan. Since people here generally only meet each other through groups of mutual friends, school and work, then obviously the number of people an average person meets in his/her life here is very small and limited. So they don’t have that many choices. After all, what are the odds that your perfect soulmate, or even an attractive person you really like, is going to just happen to be sitting next to you at work or school? Or just happen to be the one whom your mutual friend hooks you up with?
So, with such limiting odds, do most Taiwanese just eventually end up settling? If so, how come their marriages seem to be long lasting? I have a cousin who did that, and he ended up with someone I consider very plain and short, yet he was happy with her. Are Taiwanese not that big on looks? Do they not need someone “hot”?
Also, don’t they find this process to be limiting, giving them few choices?
And how come every single Taiwanese couple I know is faithful, monogamous, steady and happy that way? Is that just a front? Why do they have no desire to stray?
Any idea?
I’m in Taiwan now visiting my family for Chinese New Year.
Anyhow when I arrived a few days ago I was amazed at how clean and modern everything was compared to the Philippines. I guess I’ve been in the PI for too long. Everything is so nicely protected too (since Taiwanese tend to be overprotective worryworts), the whole subway ramp in Kaohsiung is encased in a glass shield so no one can fall off the platform, and the malls had safety nets to protect anyone from the 2nd floor and above in case they fall off the rail. It’s like they are “overprotective”, just like Taiwanese parents. lol Also, the food here is a million times better in quality and taste than in the Philippines. I had the best meal I had on the first night here in over a year.
However, the obvious drawback is that most of the girls here are kind of ugly (only 10 percent are even cute) and stuck up as well. People don’t talk to strangers unless they are introduced by mutual friends, or meet at school or work. (Gee what are the odds that you are going to find your soulmate just happening to sit next to you at work or in the classroom or introduced by someone, with such odds, most would be forced to settle) Pussy is hard to get here, and if you paid for it, it’d start at $150 and up, which is expensive. The girls are really prudish too obviously, from their body language, vibe and behavior. They will not even shake a guy’s hand because they hate touching in general, except with their close girlfriends. They are almost Muslim-like in their extreme prudishness. Even Taiwanese movies don’t ever show any sex or even any kissing.
Thus the tradeoffs.
Still, there are foreigners here who claim to do well with the ladies here and have multiple girlfriends here and that the girls here are very horny and good in bed. So I don’t know how they do it, since it does not look easy on the surface at all. Nowhere as easy as in the PI or Thailand. Horny or wild Taiwanese girls are still like UFO’s to me. I only hear about them but I don’t ever see them, or experience them for that matter. Even if you met floosy girls here in the city clubs, they’re still going to probably be very picky. I have seen good looking pretty girls here with foreign guys but they are usually guys who have been living here for a long time.
As always it depends on the girl/man. I would say there is a lot of cheating going on in Taiwan, but mostly by the men.
For the rest, the Taiwanese have different family and cultural values than us and seem to be content fantasizing about Hello Kitty or Snoopy and playing with their cell phone(s).
Guys!!I have a question in my mind and can’t finger out the answer. If there are only two girls in the world, will you choose
1.Dumb but cute taiwanese girl
2.Smart but never gives you a damn western girl
I don’t know. I’m confused, too. What will be your answer?
Win, sorry to say but by your own words you are what most women in the world would consider to be a “bad man” - not interested in them really but just chasing pussy. girls in Ph and Thailand don’t care because they don’t care about you as a person - only what they can get off you, so it’s mutual. Taiwanese are rich and educated so what could you actually do for them that they would want? i met and married a wonderful Taiwanese woman but i’m not a bad man after all.
the thing guys need to remember is how to keep up a woman’s INTEREST LEVEL. it’s difficult, since ONE THING( and it could be any little thing) can throw you off. i generally think you should follow two steps when you meet a woman:
1.meet her and exchange contact (MSN,etc)
2.forget her
yes, forget her. by doing this , you have passed her test to see if you’re desparate (and you’re not because you forgot about her, right)? also you have RAISED your value above hers by making her have to contact YOU.
you MUST raise your value above hers, as cruel as that sounds. once you do that, she’s pretty much yours. it’s that simple.
make her think she’s made a big mistake by putting up so many defenses against you.
remember, meet (and exchange numbers) then FORGET HER. do NOT violate this rule.ever.
PS. do NOT get impatient. one month is NOT too long for this process to work on them. to a tawainese woman, moving too fast on what she wants to do means she is a slut (to her). you HAVE TO let her desire build and BYPASS any care about whether or not she’s a good girl anymore. one month is NOT too long.
meet, exchange contacts (ESPECIALLY MSN) and walk away. DO NOT contact her.
and NEVER act too happy. NEVER let any woman think you’ve fallen for her.once you do that, you place your value BELOW hers.
keep your VALUE high and her INTEREST will follow.
it’s a cruel game. but those are the operating parameters we’ve been given in this world. the other exists only in the movies, at least from my experience.
I’m an AbTaiwanese and I don’t even know how I stumbled across this. It’s really funny and true, so true.
My bf is white and I live in l A. When I went back to Taiwan a few months ago I saw some girls with their White friends/boyfriends/lovers.. and those girls walked like they were queens and all us other girls should sit around and worship her. I never used to notice when I went back until recently.
I was getting my haircut and the hair stylist asked me, “How is it with a white man?” Hmm, I don’t know.. the same? Until I was talking to my close friend from Taiwan and she did say it was a big deal which led her to think all white guys in Taiwan are stuck up and dirty. Dirty as in man whore.
I think you guys are intimidating for Taiwan girls. They think you guys are probably horrible sex addicts, alcoholics, abusers. & you call them dumb? hahaha, they’re probably think you westerners are the dumb ones.
LOL
they probably think we are all bad, but when you have shown someone REPEATEDLY that you are NOT, what can i say? they still don’t believe you. they had rather believe what they’ve been told rather than what their eyes have seen.
this is a product of IRRATIONAL cultures. western culture is experiential. we believe thru experience. other cultures teach beliefs based on tradition or what the majority percieves something to be, not from actual experience in that area.
a good example was written once about a husband and a wife who could choose which day to have their baby. Monday was an ausipicous holiday, but tuesday was better because nobody wanted tuesday, meaning you would have the doctor’s full attention on that day. in fact, they would have 7 doctors at their disposal that day! the couple was advised by parents to pick the auspicious day,even though tuesday was better.
as long as there is IRRATIONALISTIC belief system in taiwan, there will continue to be people who believe what they are TOLD to believe rather than what their 5 senses and common sense tells them to.
Ran - This post is still getting a lot of attention! It is an honest and straightforward look into Taiwanese women. What will be the next post on this subject?
john,
yo dude. good to hear from you!
I’ve been kicking back a lot thinking about the next addition to this. i’ve decided on a “how to meet girls” article (sorry for any of you western girls who want to meet taiwanese guys- i have no expertise in that area^^).
MJKlein, I am not a “bad man”. I do not do anything illegal, and I am sweet and romantic and flirtatious. In Europe, Russia and Latin America that is considered normal and manly. But you gotta understand that Taiwan is one of the most prudish and frigid places in the world. And very repressed. You get the sense here that even having sexual desires here is not allowed. I am NOT imagining things. Anyone who denies it is in denial or full of it.
Just because I have sexual desires and I like hot women, does not make me a “bad man”. Such desires are natural, though they exist in varying degrees among men. What kind of logic is it to say that a guy who loves beautiful women and dating them or making love to them is “bad”? Why am I supposed to enjoy prudish frigid women who won’t even shake your hand? How is that in my best interest?
Wu master,
i totally agree. this country is full of sexual prudes.
these people are against nature itself. every young buck is looking to mate. it’s nature. my faith warns me about people such as these,ie “…without natural affection” (2 Timothy 3:3)as well as other types which are indictive of the present generation “high minded, lovers of self”, etc.
basically, they’ve had any natural affection bred right out of them thanks to the modern value system.
the end goal of the dating game is to obtain a life partner. as a former missionary, i would be gravely amiss to teach you otherwise. however, as a PRACTICAL PERSON who has seen what happens when you “play by the rules” i’m willing to help you guys out, because THE DECK IS STACKED AGAINST YOU!
i may be an angel with dirty wings, but so be it. next article is about how to make these women go nuts for you.
til then, take care.
ran the man
i really like this article on tiapei girls hit me up on myspace u know where i be soo-woo send me a message ladies
“They dress sexy to find Mr. Right, whoever he is (they don’t know either), and since you’re not him, you are just a nuisance who won’t stop looking at her. These girls drive excessively fast and one day will know what it’s like to be nipple-less, having scraped them off sliding 10 meters on the pavement at 80kph!”
ha ha - just can’t stop.
these girls actually run thru their whole lives. they’re afraid that fate might put something in their way that they don’t want. it’s good that she runs away, because that type of person you definitely DON’T NEED in your life.
Ran the Man, dude, shot through the heart, in your face advice. I ‘m not gonna thank you, ‘cuz the same stuff’s been in my head for years. It’s all a fricken’ game! Just keep moving forward guys. Mr. Ran the Man, thank you though for your postings. You are the light!
Hey, the groupie ( I call the ‘gaggle’)the classic counter measure is a wing man, most of time this tactic cuts through any cock-blockage like hot knife through butter. But really, most of those fast running women are go-getters who wants to get away from their disappointments in life and that often was due to their having unrealistic expectations (aka they don’t want to grow up). So depends on where you set your goals, you just can’t take all these things too serious.
Like the advice you give on Taiwanese girls.
Met one here in Australia some 6 weeks ago, seemed nice and chatty enough, met a few times at her work, here she even offered to show me aroung Taiwan should I want to go there, swapped phone numbers etc,( from here I wish I had seen your advice earlier) anyway, she said yes to a date, then later lets me know that she would like to bring along friends, which I hesitated at although didn’t say no, as I guessed the reason, then at time of date fails to show. Lets me know later on that her cellphone failed, so couldn’t call.( i did wonder why she didn’t use hers friends) Since then have seen her a couple of times at her work where she is always chatty and even when asked about another date she always leaves the option open without committing herself.
All this was over a period of 6 weeks, my best bet I believe is to forget about her as I think she seems to fit into your MGT category and I guess I have chased her too much and she obviously enjoys fishing.( I am the fish, if you see my meaning)
dear roby t,
thanks for sharing your experience. i’m sorry you had to go thru that.
basically you don’t need a wishy washy group think imp like her. FORGET HER!! there are TOO MANY QUALITY GIRLS here to worry about her!
ride the MRT. talk to as many chicks as you can.
Thanks for the reply and the advice.
Later this year I intend, all going well that is, to visit Taiwan.
Even the girl in question had said Taiwanese girls are pretty and smart girls to get to know.
I hope my own short experience will help someone else as much as your advice can.
Once again cheers and thanks
Umm I know Hugh’s post was a couple years back. But I hope you’re still alive dude. From the way you type, you read like you are suicidal.. Take my advice and stop being a needy loser, dude. And I mean that in all the best. Good luck.
roby t,
glad to hear you’re still keeping on! that’s what you have to o - KEEP ON KEEPING ON no matter what!
hugh,
i hope you’re doing ok, drop me a letter to let me know how you are