The only good girls are Taipei girls

‘The only good girls are Taipei girls……..’
told to me by someone when i first came here

If you live in Taipei, consider yourself fortunate. There are TONS of quality ladies there- OUTSTANDING ladies that you will feel fortunate to have known, no matter what happens between the two of you.There are many who are ready to have a boyfriend and will treat you right.And the odds are on your side mathematically. Look at the demographics: urban and metro population of Taipei is 5,000,000 people!!!!! All confined into a city the size of Baltimore!Most dependent on public transportation. You’re bound to run into somebody that suits you.

However, if you are out of Taipei or other MAJOR city, you’re mostly out of luck.I have listened to more than one guy outside Taipei complaining about not getting any action at all. If you live outside Taipei(or Tai Chong etc), I suggest making a two day trip to there a regular weekly thing, just to meet people.
That said, even in Taipei there are a few types of women that I find unique to Taiwan that one should watch out for. They are not the majority, but they exist in enough numbers to make your dating life a serious pain. Here they are:

1. Miss English- always talking in English( except to her girl buddies),and always preparing for some English proficiency test, Miss English is goal oriented. People around her don’t matter, except those who fit into her academic plans. You are basically language practice. Any attention she shows you is to keep you on the hook. Also, her talk about former foriegn boyfriends she claims to have had will depress you.
Sex with her would probably involve you teaching her all the synonyms for the word ‘orgasm’, as well as correcting her pronunciation when she moans.
Avoid her.

2. Miss Group Think– you make a date with MGT, only for her to call you up (or worse show up) and say ‘can i bring a friend?’ Miss Group Think does not trust her own judgment and needs you to be screened by her friends. Of course, you will not pass the test. Her friends will pick out anything that’s different about you and judge it as a fault (the Chinese way of looking at things is always right). But it’s worse than that.
Many times, MGT has thought it over and decided she’s not really ready to go out with you, but can’t get out of the date. So, she is letting you know that you’re just friends by bringing her friend. You CANNOT win this situation. If you get angry, that is ‘proof’ that you were unstable and not worth her time.
Nothing will come of any effort with MGT. My advice: just leave her there with her friend.

3. Miss Xenophobia– closely related to Miss Group Think. Does the same things as MGT but for a different reason: she’s just not ready to spoil her squeaky clean dating record by actually going out with a foriegner. Miss Xenophobia is a product of decades of nationalist conditioning and quite frankly, a racist whether she knows it or not. Basically unreachable.

4. Miss ‘Don’t Know What My Vagina Is For’– runs in packs. thinks looking pretty is for her girlfriends, not the opposite sex. Is a clueless, sexual dud in a killer body. loves Hello Kitty. rejoices in making all men her friends.Is probably getting sex, but nobody can figure out from where. May have no need whatsoever for it, since her perceivable libido is zero.

5. Miss Drives Fast So You Can’t Look At Her- also wears one of the new full face sunvisors. These girls are hiding. They dress sexy to find Mr. Right, whoever he is (they don’t know either), and since you’re not him, you are just a nuisance who won’t stop looking at her. These girls drive excessively fast and one day will know what it’s like to be nipple-less, having scraped them off sliding 10 meters on the pavement at 80kph!
Another example of the excessive stupidity that shows itself in many- not the majority-but TOO MANY taiwanese women.You don’t have to avoid this woman. She’s avoiding you.

6. Miss Church- EITHER is trying hard to get away from whatever bad girl she used to be. or, is frigid and afraid of men and is hiding behind the church, but knows she needs a man, so she ‘marries’ Jesus, knowing He won’t get her into trouble. Asking this girl out for coffee, you might as well be asking her for a romp in the sack. ‘Oh i couldn’t go out with you unless you were my boyfriend.’ (catch 22)?
Of course, she can’t keep up this act forever and will look for a safe avenue to express her pent up sexuality. But the moment you return her advances, she will turn you away and say you misunderstood,i.e ‘ we’re all just friends.’ As with a lot of Taiwan girls, she just wanted the ‘atmosphere of a foriegner’ for a few moments, but just can’t go for real.

7. Miss 7-11- has lots of guys-tough strong, manly truck drivers- telling her she’s pretty everyday. What does she need you for? Nothing really, but atmosphere. She only enjoys the atmosphere of ‘that foriegn guy who comes in’. Maybe she feels she’s accomplished something because she’s ‘broken out of’ her xenophbia and actually talked to a foriegner. Her friends can say ‘wow’.
But if you think Miss 7-11 is going out with you, you’d better get your head out of the clouds. 7-11 girl only likes rough, tough men, and you, no matter how tough you are, are too nice for a down home taiwanese girl. Which brings us to….

8. Country Girls (in case you happen outside of Taipei)- no, they’re not sexually repressed bumpkins just waiting to release it on a foriegn guy. They’re already getting PLENTY of sex, from TAI KE GE GE(those tough, gangster jerks). To her, you with all your foriegner -nice -guy- treat- women-right stuff, just aren’t manly. You have to understand: all country girl has ever seen are the tough types.That’s her image of a man. She knows if she wants anything from them, she has to offer up more than flirting. These guys don’t give a you know what about women, and they get it ALL. CGs treat you nice because you give them something they can’t get from their boyfriends- true niceness. But you are just for that and NOTHING MORE. All sexual attention and attraction is reserved for her good for nothing truck driver boyfriend, who by the way, doesn’t know how to smile, only smirk.

9. Miss ‘Women Looking For Men.Com’ or whatever site she posts on-you would think this girl would fall into one of two types: nice girl looking for a quality guy and is READY to date or 2., sex craved nympho who likes foriegners, but you would be wrong(about 1.).
When you meet 1., she’ll make you jump thru the same hoops as Miss Group Think. She’s NOT READY to date, no matter what she posts. 2. is no fun and quite frankly, psychotic. Trust me- nymphos are nothing to brag about on your sexual resume.

10. Miss Sky High Standard- nothing is good enough for this woman. The days when a foriegn guy was considered a catch are over. You’ll surely run into a greencard digger in Taiwan. Taiwan has been quite successful at boosting the self esteem of women here thru the roof. Even your nice, cozy house that you can buy in the States, Canada, or Australia isn’t good enough for her. You’re not president of Taiwan Bank. You’re not good enough. Close relative to Miss Xenophobia.

So there you are. The stuff to avoid. Good luck……….

About the Author

Ran The Man

Ran the Man has lived in Taiwan for over 10 years and has more than 20 years experience in Chinese and language and culture. He resides.... somewhere in Taiwan.

36 Responses to “ The only good girls are Taipei girls ”

  1. my wife is from Kaohsiung. case closed!
  2. Taipei girls seem to be the most likely to date dumb foreigners. Let those girls do whatever they want, I say.
  3. There are more English speaking Taiwanese and more foreigners in Taipei too so there will be more cross cultural dating there. As far as Taipei girls being the most likely to date dumb foreigners, I can see no evidence of that. There are plenty of girls, even here in lovely Tainan, that are more than willing to date dumb foreigners.

    Ran, you forgot a group, and it is called the Groupie. This would go against what you say but these girls need a foreigner and will stop at nothing to get one, and have likely had several in their grasp before (starting to gross you out yet?). They frequent foreigner restaurants, pubs, and discos. You know who I am talking about. ;)

  4. u missed another group: druggies and junkies. d&js will give u what u want as long as u can get them E&K… although the experience may not be so pleasurable cuz they r unconscious 70% of the time.
  5. Nothin’ like some good ol’ fashioned Yellow Fever to start your day.

    As for me, my experiences with chicks in Taiwan has been… just… no.

    A lot of it has to do with my ABC status. I speak fluent Mandarin and look like them, so the laowai appeal is gone, but somehow the “deep wallet” perception remains, despite evidence to the contrary.

    In other words, I am to similar to have any lasting appeal, but different enough to have my money sucked dry. Oh, Tai-Mei…

  6. my main point was that in most of the major cities you find more NORMAL girls- girls who are less likely to believe folk superstitions but rather, use REASON as a basis for living. there are in my opinion, TWO taiwans: one is stuck in the past and the other is getting educated, going to bookstores, living a “LOHAS” lifestyle, reading top ten international bestsellers,etc.
    you will find LOTS of these kinds of ladies in TAIPEI, which is the only major city i really have experience with. i couldn’t vouch for tai chong, or tainan because i don’t have any experience there.
    the girls in other parts of taiwan really don’t seem to have their heads together sexually. a friend of mine made it to 3rd base with a girl, only for her to accuse him of date rape that night because she felt guilty.
    still other girls will let you get them into a situation where any NORMAL couple would make out ie, walking to a secluded spot alone at night, start holding close, but the kiss is a NO GO!! she lets you walk the whole 99 yards, but can’t let you go that 1 more step!!!
    my next installment will tell you EXACTLY what to do in this case. and it works. tune in.
    ran the man
  7. The funniest one is number 4. Hahah. So funny and so true!
  8. Ran the Man, i you state: “TAIPEI, which is the only major city i really have experience with. i couldn’t vouch for tai chong, or tainan because i don’t have any experience there” but then go on to say: “the girls in other parts of taiwan really don’t seem to have their heads together sexually.”

    how would you know? in fact, you have to speak Chinese and probably not be an English teacher for women to take you seriously in Taiwan. if you’re like most foreigners here, you’re a short-time only fling, and that’s exactly the kind of girls you will attract. you can’t expect to have a serious relationship speaking baby English with a girl who knows that pretty soon you’re history. those girls won’t open up to you.

  9. #4 is not funny and is the worst. ive been in the situation where i go 99 steps and cannot make the 1. what could there possibly be to do in that situation? i would very much like to know Ran. being with this girl would change my life, in fact i very much have one-itis right now. but that is a me i am afaid i will never know.
  10. The way he wrote it is just hilarious.

    “Is a clueless, sexual dud in a killer body. loves Hello Kitty.”

    That is great because it is so true. Ran also says to avoid these types, so there you go. I am interested to see Ran’s next post. We could all learn something possibly… Come on Ran, change some lives!

  11. @ B.BarNavi

    You are really screwed eh? Be strong man. And be like most western guys out here and make all your dates split the bill. At least you won’t go broke.

  12. to answer MJ,
    my mandarin is almost like my english. i have been here 10 years, and spoken mandarin for 20, just so you’ll know. but i can understand how you might assume the opposite.
    as i said before, there are many quality ladies in taiwan. i see no reason to waste time on the ones who don’t have their heads together. taipei is a SURE thing as far as meeting someone. that’s the only i can say with any certainty.
    the next article will deal with the stalls women put up. you’re going to be dissapointed greatly with the one you love so much, because almost ALL women here put up the same “tests”. what i’m going to tell you will probably shock you, in that you will see opportunities where you didn’t see any before.observation and execution are key.
    it’s a game, one that these girls play to their own loss when they won’t let YOU, a quality guy pass the test. you keep that attitude in mind,Hugh. believe it in your heart- “I’m a quality person, you play this game to your loss, not mine”.
  13. Ran Da Ge, i hear you. i am 25 and in my short time on this Earth have learned what i consider to be a ‘good’ way of life. i am living the best that i possibly know how every day. Before i walk into the girls house and room i thank her for letting me in. I have brought her many presents at her work. I have gao bai’ed, expressed my emotions to her and said i want her to be my girlfriend. After not responding i said so what do you think? (we speak only mandarin) and she said wo jue de qi guai.

    Now it is more than a week and i havent called her. i am not at all the guy to go out and try and sleep with alot of girls. i havent felt this way about a girl in years. Maybe my strategy of not calling her is having a reverse effect, she hasnt called me. i just have no idea what she is thinking. then again i have been here 2 months am only here for another 4, this might be one of the reasons she hesitates. still, the hugh that would come from being with this girl is a hugh that i can only imagine.

  14. Are you willing to take her back to your home country and support her, or are you just looking for a part time 4 month romance to tide you over while you are here?

    You might need to go for a groupie girl. Sounds like you need a part time girlfriend, which your favorite girl is being sensible in not pursuing.

  15. hugh,
    first a caveat:
    25 years old is young for a guy to feel like one girl is “the one”. i’ve met a LOT of “the ones”. how can that be?
    they were the one for that time in my life. they treated me good. i cherish what they gave me, each one of them.
    i would worry about “the one” at about 30.

    but…
    if you really love her, don’t be so apologetic. she lets you in her house. you’ve MORE than got your foot in the door. but you hesitate, so she hesitates.
    she’s waiting for you to GIVE HER A LIFE. step up. be the man. grab her hand and the rest will follow.

  16. As strange as it sounds even to me i think i could marry her Admin, but you are right. she is sensible in not pursuing me. Maybe i should give up the ‘im going to give up soon so you better call me’ act and see her as often as i can before i leave.
  17. B.BarNavi,
    ABC is cool. look at Garrett Wang (star trek voyager). from what i can see he gets plenty of action around san francisco.
    attitude. attitude.
    when i was growing up, i thought ABC dudes were the coolest. i wanted to be just like them. my heros were alex kwok, james lew,etc.all the dudes in IKF magazine (not trying to stereo type, just saying, I always thought ABC dudes were cool).
    take that cool and use it on chicks here in taiwan. you’ve got it, so use it.
  18. willy santos,
    i was also going to mention “foriegner bar flies”, but you guys have gotta have something for those nights when other options fail.
  19. i am now convinced that not calling her for a week to make her want to push things forward was a mistake. Ran, my man, im going to do exactly what you said and give her a life. i shall return here someday and report…whether my ancestors bless me or nay.
  20. As long as these women are more like Winnie Cooper as opposed to Paris Hilton, I’d say men go get yourself a good girl and not a filthy, loose slob.
  21. good girls are a must. i DO NOT recommend bar flies. but there is a problem in taiwan with good girls not knowing what “good” means.many think good is playing by the rules. and some of those “rules” include the idea that being with a foriegner is wrong.
    in fact, good girls can hurt you very badly. they don’t care about previous signals they’ve given off, only that they’ve broken off before they’ve done anything their peers consider bad. as long as they haven’t crossed that line (the one set by their peers) they assume they’ve done no wrong. in actuality they’ve crossed a more important line, that of human decency and respect for others as one would for oneself.
    but say that to one of them and they’ll laugh at you. is that a good person?
  22. in short, GOOD GIRL DOESN’T EQUAL GOOD PERSON.
  23. Sorry Ran, I think you’re on the wrong track.

    Any girls worth her salt will screen guys, and most of the stuff you mentioned is just screening, whether conscious or not.

    The fact is, the “dumb foreign” guys who are getting all the pussy are the dudes who see through these silly games. That’s why Taiwanese girls dig these dudes: they refuse to jump through hoops and carry their girlfriend’s handbag. It’s the seem reason they are into the gangster/taike types.

    Most Taiwanese girls are very traditional. Don’t pander to them and don’t pay any attention to their BS and they’ll be all over you.

  24. my thoughts exactly.
  25. We can just shorten this to don’t date idiots.
  26. and oh yeah tru dat for number 9 tru dat indeed………….
  27. just don’t date the idiots, in so many words. right on. problem is, despite my lengthy article warnings, YOU’LL NEVER KNOW IF SHE’S AN IDIOT TIL SHE SPRINGS THIS CRAP ON YOU!!

    many times you’ll things these women won’t do this and BAM they will. many disappointments.

    with experience you can sort of get a feel for what’s going to happen, but not always.

  28. Speak for yourself, I am rough enough to handle them… :)
  29. Well friends, it has been three weeks and i have not seen the girl of my dreams. She told me she would call one night and didnt, which wasnt hardly the first time so i thought she was giving me the indirect clue that she wanted her space. I have given her space, she texted me once to watch out for the taiphoon but i wrote back and said xie xie qing ni ye zhu yi an quan! Tomorrow i start the Three Days of Presents and i will give her a different present each night. It has been three weeks, but i have less than three months left here and i am going to see her as often as she will let me.
  30. so you rejected my post? and i was going to ask you if you wanted to go out and show me around or something in tainan. i hate to be superstitious but i wonder if your rejecting my post has anything to do with life slapping me repeatedly in the face ever since i came to taiwan.
  31. please delete my last posts. and please forgive me. as my destiny seems to ignore me more and more i grow impatient for something to happen, and it could be that instead of rejecting my post you simply havent checked it. i need to go into silent recluse now. again, i am sorry friend.
  32. Hey Hugh, I don’t have an entirely long experience with Taiwanese girls but I know enough to know from Chinese girls that that silence you’ve been experiencing from her means she’s out of the game. Rather than face the issue with you she’s avoiding any kind of confrontation or interaction that would involve a loss of face with either party. I’ve been through a similar situation (although nowhere near a “she’s the one” level). After the first week you pretty much know she’s out, even the first few days of silence. If anything, next time you’ll be even more adept to read the very subtle signs of romance in Taiwanese culture. But hey, I could be wrong. I’ve got more experience in the mainland, but from what I read from this post, Beijing girls are just like Taipei girls when it comes to romance.
  33. Hi Ran,

    I am a Taiwanese girl who has lived abroad for many years. I find your article entertaining and witty. Bit of an eye opener for ladies and in some ways educational. I look forward to reading your future articles.

  34. hugh,
    open up and get a grip! i’m a busy guy. i can’t answer everyone’s posts right away.

    don’t go into silent recluse! get out and get to know people. if you fall down, get up and try again. keep trying! social skills are difficult to learn. i find myself way behind on what passes for sophisticated nowdays, but i’m willing to learn if it’s good for me.

  35. A quality lady has every right to choose the man she wants to go out with.

    Why should she date a dumb foreign guy who just wants to be a player?

    It is a waste of time for her too.

    And what’s wrong with practicing English with you?

    Don’t you have to speak English back in your own country?

    And isn’t speaking English the only thing a dumb foreign guy can accomplish

    in Taiwan? No offense to the highly educated and professional foreign men in Taiwan.

  36. well i have failed. i gave her all kinds of presents and was there for her when she needed me, i took care of her friends dog for her because her friend went out of town and gave it to her but she didnt want to deal with it. she said she would call me when she has time (which she has alot of) more than 2 weeks ago but nothing. i havent seen her in a month. i have one month left in taiwan. i hope i can see her at least one more time before i die. ive never felt anything like this before. i have no reason to live.

    and sandra, you are stupid.

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