Foreign guys dating Asian women
By xiao long
There are definitely some weird issues about being a white guy in Taiwan or anywhere in Asia for that matter. Having lived in Asia for 3 years, I can’t count the number of times I was shocked to see ordinary white guys with exceptionally beautiful Asian girlfriends. These girls, in general, treat their boyfriends really well. The treatment is very different from how most western women treat their men. It is far better. Recently, I am seeing many people posting complaints about this phenomenon. As a guy who does well both in America and in Asia, I feel a little annoyed by these complaints. To the angry posters I ask, who else we are going to date in Taiwan. The foreign women? Number one, that is like going to Italy and eating McDonalds. Seriously, most of the foreign women in Taiwan either came with a boyfriend or are really not worth looking at. Number two, most are so bitter that the foreign guys are dating Asian women that they can’t talk about anything else.
Please forgive me for speaking in generalities. I know there are a great many wonderful foreign women in Taiwan who are both beautiful and don’t complain all the time. It just seems that so many love to go on and on about this particular situation in Taiwan.
I had a female coworker, from Canada, who is an excellent example of what I am talking about. She would bitch about the foreign guys and their beautiful Taiwanese girlfriends continuously. She would whine about how the Taiwanese women would treat us. She would complain that none of the foreign guys wanted to date her. Keep in mind, this was a really large unattractive girl, with a bad personality.
At some point she started dating a Taiwanese man. This guy treated her like a princess. Not only was he a surgeon, he was a young surgeon. He was also very successful. He took her traveling around Asia. He bought her nice things. This young surgeon cooked and may even cleaned for her. So now the spokesperson for the Angry Unattractive Foreign Women Association of Taiwan (AUFWAOT), who loved to remind every foreign guy that he could not have the same girlfriend in his home country, is with a guy who she could not dream of back in Canada. Do you think any of the foreign guys cared that she was with a guy she could never have in her own country? Did anyone post on the internet, how dare she date a Taiwanese guy much less one so far out of her league?
I just want to remind all of you who complain about intercultural dating in Taiwan, it does go both ways.
Just a note, I don’t excuse the many jerks who abuse their position as a foreigner in Asia. I am referring to the ones who only come to Asia for sex. I think they are despicable. You know who they are. However, I think it is perfectly ok to have a relationship with an Asian woman. Please don’t complain if she treats me better then a woman in my home country. Shouldn’t we all aspire to treat one another better?
In 66 days I will come to Taiwan to meet my girlfriend who is a Taiwanese woman. I’m longing for this day since she left Germany where I live and where I became acquainted with her in March of this year
I like your blog and your writing style, will come here from time to time to see what’s going on. Greetings, Martin
Thanks for the compliment. The writing isn’t just one person, but a collective of people who want to share their experiences in Taiwan. Keep in touch, and throw us an email when you’re here. You never know what kind of party we may be involved in.
I will pretend it was for me and say thank you. Let me also welcome you to Taiwan. If you come with a sense of adventure and thirst for something different, I am sure you will love it here.
Yes, first I didn’t realize that this site is written by more than one person. 哈哈.
On my own page I collect some informations that could be useful for my travel. I hope one day it will be useful for other interested Germans, too. Your blog is the first entry in my new favourite links category with nice blogs from and about Taiwan
(maybe you want to try: first click on “Taiwan”, and in the second step on “weblogs”)
A propos “adventure”. I have heard that something like camping and spending the holidays in the nature with my tent during the nights is not so common and can be a security risk for me. Do you think it would be less dangerous to travel without my tent and search for an expensive and boring hotel room instead? I just need some more opinions about this topic, because I really love adventures, nature and living in a tent in my holidays. It is the contrast to my everyday life I need from time to time. What other kind of crimes can I expect in Taiwan in comparison to other parts of the world? I still believe in the good side of the human nature and don’t like to be afraid if there is no reason. Are there public camping places out there in Taiwan? I cannot find any information about it so far.
…… oh I cannot find your mail address here, this is the reason for my long comment. I thank you for your patience
Yes! There are many campsites here in Taiwan. It’s quite safe,too. The only problem is that you might get a little frustrated because of the different languages. Try to go with a Taiwanese friend the first few times.
I think you can reach the admin at therealtaiwan@gmail.com
Have fun.
If you’re going to camp, I recommend that you use a car to 1) make it easier to get to a bunch of campsites and 2) make it easier to tote your and your girlfirends stuff around. I went on a trip where a bunch of people took all of their gear on motorcycles, and there was an accident where one of my friends broke his leg in the mountains. His wife and gear were on the back of the bike, and this (because of the weight), in conjunction with some rocks on the road caused him to wipe out around a turn. Safety shouldn’t be a big concern. Just don’t go leaving expensive things around and use common sense.
There’re two immediate problems I see:
1) Your beautiful, subservient Taiwanese girlfriend isn’t in love with you but what you represent. Some want to marry you for citizenship (US/Canada), some assume you’re rich (don’t know why but it happens), some assume white men are better sex partners, and some just wanna be able to brag about dating white men. Of course they’ll never tell you any of this, but just watch out.
2) If you hang out with your Taiwanese girlfriend at the wrong place, you can be sure you’re gonna have some punk ass gangsters harassing you, some will even beat you up if not outright kill you. Just check the news for examples of this. Again, just be careful…
@John Doe, I hope you don’t mean me. I think being killed for a good reason is better for me than beaten up
Could you show me a link to one of these news? And where can I find the wrong places where I shouldn’t go? Perhaps it is like here in Germany. If you are at the wrong place at the wrong time you will get in trouble, but not if you respect each other and don’t try to prove anything. Hierarchical thinking may also lead into trouble. No one is better than the other. I also think I can find stories like this one in every country, where men get in trouble because of their women or the women they want to have (if I may use this verb in this context). In my small village where I grew up we also had some of these hooligans and other violent people, but I am sure that their behaviour against you depend on the way you look at them. I am a peaceful man and always think that everyone is just a human with human feelings and habits. These can be very different and I am not able to judge about them unless I do not know their background. But finally everyone wants his/her inner peace… The way you chose for to achieve this depends on what you have learned in former days. In the most situations we use our habits, not our brains, and act like robots 
We cannot not communicate, is one of the constructivist’s sayings. And we all are able to communicate respect and acceptance, even in a nonverbal way. This is my way which helps me never to get in trouble since my birth… Perhaps this is one way to pull some people out of their habits and get them back into thinking a little bit, if they expect misunderstanding and disrespect and get something else.
… I would say “subservient” is not the right word in my situation and cannot say in how much of other’s situations it is also not adequate. I think it has a negative connotation. Also, for me it is not so respectful to think like this… perhaps you have made another experience, so I do not want to influence your thinking.
@admin: Thank you for your advice. It is a good idea to rent a car. But in the meanwhile my girlfriend pleased me to leave my tent at home… I want to wait a little bit with my decision.
@Turkey. Yes, the language problem is what I really want because I want to learn the chinese language. Here we say in German “ins kalte Wasser springen”. This means to jump into the cold water. Even if you cannot swim, if it is cold enough and you dare to jump into the cold sea you maybe remember your natural abilities to swim in water automatically. But it also means to learn something just by confrontation with the situation, or just by doing it… So I would be happy, not to understand in the beginning, because I will learn it faster the more I need the language.
It is good to know that the campsites are quite safe, but I will need some more time to decide for or against a holiday in a tent…
@all: have a good time, Martin
A Response to John Doe.
It is very interesting to me that when I said a woman treats a man nice, you took that to mean she is subservient. I never said that. In fact if I were Taiwanese, I would find that a little offensive. However that probably the least offensive thing you wrote. To be honest the whole subservient think can get boring very quick…with Taiwanese girls or western girls.
Your comments about Taiwanese women looking for a foreign guy for marriage, money, and bragging rights makes me think you have never been to Taiwan. This may be the case in parts of China or other poverty stricken countries. However, Taiwan is very different from China. I have lived and worked in both places for long periods of time. Regarding a woman’s motives for wanting to be with a man…that is something we may never truly understand. To suggest that Taiwanese women have such devious motives seems wrong. In fact I would bet that you are more likely to meet a woman only interested in marrying for money in America then you are in Taiwan.
When I was in Shanghai I had some concerns, but I never felt that way when I was in Taiwan. You have to realize that Taiwan is an economic miracle in Asia. It has among the highest quality of living in the region and very little poverty. I am not saying it does not exist, but it is definitely not the norm.
I think anyone who takes the time to learn about Taiwanese culture will tell you that they are by far the friendliest and warmest people you will find. You mentioned that the Taiwanese gangsters would be angry if white guy is with a Taiwanese girl. You even referred to some recent news article supposedly about something like this. While I love most things about Taiwan, I have to admit that the news reporting is anything but reliable. I would never quote the National Enquirer in a serious conversation and neither should you. I am sure there are exceptions, but in most cases you have to work pretty hard to get your ass kicked by Taiwanese gangsters. The vast majority of gangsters that I know are really friendly. As long as you are respectful, which many foreigners are not, nothing will happen to you.
Lastly, I wanted to address the sex issue you brought up. You said, “Some assume white men are better sex partners.†If someone is sexually active, what is wrong with that person looking for the best sex partner they can find? I am not going to say if it is true or not. But Ladies, if you are reading this, it is true in my case.
Seriously, how is this different from any other country in the Western world? Are you holding Taiwan to some higher standard? Of course you should be careful. You should be careful in every country you are in. Given everything in going on in the world, minus the crazy traffic and the pollution, I would say Taiwan is among the safest place to be.
I am currently dating a Taiwanese girl… it was a love at first sight. I am an Asian male living in the US. We both met at a bar, totally unexpected. I’ve dated Korean, Japanese and Chinese (mainland) girls and from my limited perspective that Taiwanese girls are very realistic… sometimes too much! This one is a keeper, I think. But I have to admit that some Asian girls can have quite a temper (my girl included… or is this an indication of me being silly??)
Probably I am being silly… or why else I would post this on an internet forum???
It’s nice to be in love though…
Can you suggest good dating sites in taiwan?
Hey,I don’t know if it’s right for me to write something here,at first,I’m a Chinese girl,getting this article by accident….It’s really a wonderful article,I’m really fond of it. Truly,I’m dating with the guy from India and he is in a different city now.And we begin our relationship just two weeks ago besides we have known each other for 4 months or so.He said he loves me gradually,and everyday he misses me a lot,sometimes me too.And he said I’m his lover forever and he called his parents speaking about me,that’s what he said to me , I don’t know if it’s ture… Then there comes the confusing thing,he asked me to go his city where he studies now ,the next summer to spend the whole summer with him,and u know I’ve had an experience with a foriegner having sex and when he went back to his country we lost contact gradually…Now I don’t know if this guy will leave me behind after we have sex and his going back to his country,although he said he would take me with him wherever he was!!!But who knows,,,I just don’t want a relationship as before,never,and I don’t know what to do now.It seems I’m not matual and not sure if I love him or not.Maybe I’m just like foriegners I don’t know my ture feelings.But every relationship I’m serious throughout the time we r together.
@ owner – Ive posted a comment here a while ago.. where is it???
Ive mentioned that I had some foreign bf’s in the past and I think its really hard to cope up with different culture.. Im a taiwanese girl and I admit I have a very low temper which always lead to an argument. I like other culture but It seems so hard to understand them sometimes… hayy
I usually remove comments that seem like spam. Your comments seem like spam. You probably aren’t even a girl.
the couple spends every possible minute of their free time together. Also in Taiwanese relationships, the girl doesn’t show her emotions or show anger when she’s upset, and she never yells. I’m also told that in groups, the girl is expected to give her boyfriend full attention and not talk to other people unless her boyfriend is at her side. Also she is not to share her food with anybody besides her boyfriend.
Most of the guys love white girls especially taiwanese girls because they have smooth, white and pinkish skin. And so they are cute. Just taiwanese girls need some attention from their boyfriend to be able for them to have a good relationship. Also the trust is there.
I do agree that Westerners have to respect the taiwanese culture. But i do feel that they like the Taiwanese people and love the local culture! There are a lot of reasons why foreigners are very impressed by local women.
I have to admit, I am continously surprised at the rather drab looking white guys in Taiwan….with or without Taiwanese girlfriends. But everyone deserves to be appreciated so I don’t look down on that. Opposites attract. My Taiwanese wife will point out Taiwanese girls that she thinks are beautiful (actresses,singers, girl at a bubble tea stand) and more often than not, the girl is unaatractive, but Taiwanese might just focus on the girl being taller or have a more pronounced nose, traits less common in their culture but common in ours. My Taiwanese wife does not focus on their beautiful features, just that they are tall, bigger eyes or stronger nose. Traits most American guys have. So lucky for the guys that might not be succesfully daters in the U.S….you will get more attention in Taiwan, maybeshockingly so! I was pretty succesfully dating American women so I didn’t have a self esteem issue about it. As a tall, big nosed foreigner with an outgoing personality…I got LOTS of attention in Taiwan. I even had a couple of instances where groups of girls would walk by me on the sidewalk and say ‘so handsome’ in English and Chinese. Something that NEVER happened in the U.S.. So, it’s nice being a rockstar!
To Western men,
why dont you just deal with your own women?
You simply just think by treating women like God (opening the door, let her go 1st while walking) is a good way to treat them?
that simply makes them to get used to stepped on your head and treat them like lowly creature that dont deserve to be respected..
just like what you can see from Western women
SO!! Instead of breaking our culture by introducing your Western moron culture to Asia? why dont you just deal with your own women that has been treated to get used to stepped on your head?
” No wonder a Canadian guy I dated in Canada said I look just like Canadian… I don’t so that Taiwanese girl thing above..
there is significance in every moment and the besuty of life is that you can create your own destuny
hey all i am from the united kindom and i am planning on moving down taiwan gonna be starting work down there in a few month and i been on some dating websites and the taiwan women are so freindly in england they just to crazy think that why im going up there to have a peace full life also i had my fortune and im gonna get married up there and have 1 or 2 kids i was shocked so would you recomend taipei for me im meeting a very nice taipei women down there and she is just so talkative and i like that alot i make her laugh she loves my jokes and there english is brilliant just gonna miss all my family in england 23 years old living away from my family holding me back but mabey my futer wife is there
After a couple of years, every relationship settles into the same routine. The novelty factor won’t last forever, and pretty soon every couple will be arguing about who should be bringing out the trash
so when i move taiwan i have to watch out for the triads because they will try and rob me or just beat me up i aint scared of a few people they just better make sure they do the job right and kill me or it will be them gettin hurt i am so looki forward to move taiwan now and meet my special girl hope she dont plan on gettin me ambushed i am so gettin a gun down there for protection cannot be worser then england we are a fighting breed
I agree with you, the interracial dating special treatment can go both ways. For me, it’s not even about looks. I don’t care if the Taiwanese girl is beautiful and the white guy is a frog. My issue is that generally (at least in social situations) these guys treat their girlfriends/wives like sh*t. They think they’re better than Taiwanese people and therefore dating them must be like dating a god.
I wish those Taiwanese girls who love white men no matter how they treat them would get some self respect and those white guys should realize that they’re in another country, and to treat it and it’s people WITH respect. If not then go home.
Hey, most of the people here have a foreigner drought in your own country, I come from Australia and had no trouble dating foreign women in fact thats why I am in Taiwan because of my GF who I met in Oz, I found it very easy to find all demographics of women through many different cultures allot being SE asia in Australia, and yes I dated white girls and islander girls as well as southern Europeans, I really find it interesting how people migrate here mainly to do mundane jobs in order to find chicks, if you could list your hometowns down below I will make sure I do not go there
but also do treat the ladies with respect, and no hungry hungry hippo while you are here it makes all the other foreigners look bad, the Taiwan people are some of the friendliest and nicest people in the world but also because of the lack of racial diversity can become very xenophobic very quickly if expectations are quashed